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AN INTERVIEW WITH MICK JAGGER

QUESTION: Mick, when did you first become aware of the Rutles?
MICK: I suppose when we were living in Edith Grove in London and we were living in squalor and we didn't have any money and there were the Rutles on TV with girls chasing them and we thought this can't be that difficult so we thought we'd have a go ourselves.

QUESTION: When did you actually meet the Rutles us individuals?
MICK: The first time I met the Rutles they all came down to see us at Richmond and we had just completed a number and suddenly they were standing there in their black suits, they'd just come off a TV show and they were just sort of checking out the opposition, and then they introduced themselves you know: Dirk, Stig, Nasty, and Barry. They were very nice and complimentary, but that was the first time we'd met them. They'd heard about us you know cos for a while we were the South's answer to the Rutles.

QUESTION: Were you billed as that?
MICK: We were billed as that, yes. When we got up to Birmingham it'd say ''London's answer to the Rutles.

QUESTION: Were they trying to sell you songs at that stage?
MICK: A bit later on they did yeh. The one for that was Dirk really. He was a real hustler for the songs. Any old slag he'd sell a song to. I remember they came down once and we were trying to rehearse and they said do you wanna song and we said ''yeh.'' We were always really open to songs cos we didn't write our own and the Rutles were always well known for their hit-making potential ability. So they ran around the corner to the pub to write this song and came back with it and played it to us and it was horrible. So, we never bothered to record it. I used to see them a lot then. The Rutles in London, particularly Nasty. Nasty and I got on well. Barry used to get a bit drunk in nightclubs you know and start punching out the Bigamy Sisters.

QUESTION: You were at Che Stadium?
MICK: Yeh, I was at Che Stadium with the Rutles. That was the first big outdoor concert by a rock hand, the Rutles at Che Stadium, so it was an exciting event, I even rented a helicopter for it. Came in, zooming over the crowd, never aseen a crowd as big as that for a rock concert before, ran in and met them before they went on. I think they were nervous, you know, in front of all those people, but the thing I remembered most about them is running out in the middle of this field and you couldn't see 'em and there they were just miles away. Is it really the Rutles? It might be somebody else. And there was Barry on this eighteen foot drum riser swaying in the wind. I thought it was going to fall over. We had a good party afterwards though.

QUESTION: Did you hear much?
MICK: No. Nothing at all. You couldn't hear anything.

QUESTION: How long did they play?
MICK: About twenty minutes and that was it, off, helicopter, back to the Warwick Hotel. two birds each.

QUESTION: Did you know Leggy well?
MICK: Oh yeh, Leggy, yeh you kidding, Leggy got around a bit you know, I think he was a very big influence on them. He was like one of those old time managers you know. do this. do that, take all the responsibility off your shoulders: you wanna Rolls Royce? I'll buy you one, what color do you want it, what color do you want it painted? And that was aIl right until he started going off with the bullfighters, and then I think they got a bit disenchanted with him and he didn't know where to go in his life and they wanted to control themselves, you know.

QUESTION: You went to Bognor with them?
MICK: Yeh, the Bognor thing was really funny. "The Bognor Express" they called it in the newspapers, ''Aboard the Bognor Express." We all got on the train together and someone was very late, one of the girls. they're always late, Nasty thought we were trying to get on She Rutles mystical bandwagon which wasn't true at all we were just us eager to find out what was going on at this board-tapping thing at Bognor as anybody. Anyway. we had a bit of board-tapping and nothing much happened we didn't reach anywhere much and we had to spend the night there in a youth-hostel type place and I remember I was with Marianne Faithful and we only had single beds in the hotel so Marianne and I put the beds together so that we could sleep together on the floor and Nasty came in and said "Oh Mick, all you think about is fucking sex, man. We're down here for board-tapping not sex." It was you know a kind of funny weekend that, and then of course at the end of it we found out that Leggy had gone off to Australia which kind of put the mockers on.

QUESTION: Did Keith like the Rutles?
MICK: Yeh, I think Keith liked the Rutles songs from the beginning. It influenced him a lot more than it did me. I mean, I never used to like them very much you know, they were to me a bit sort of too "dee dee dee dee dee dee," but Keith liked that.

QUESTION: Why do you think the Rutles broke up?
MICK: Why do I think they did? Why did the Rutles break up? Women. Just women getting in the way. Cherchez la femme you know

QUESTION: Do you think they'll ever get together again?
MICK: I hope not.


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